They had space, time and energy to change the speed limits on an arbitrarily selected bunch of roads (own the libs) but no time deal with corruption. It figures.
Well done Bryce. With additional lobbyists including some of those Labour people who 'retired' or lost seats in 2023, there will have been an additional plethora of 'favour seekers' this past 18 months. No wonder our transparency ratings are sinking.
Have you any intel on Infrastructure NZ. Big players I think in the water debacle in Wellington with the CEO of infrastructure also the chair of wellington Water. How much influence I wonder have infrastructure NZ had on government push to new water entities. That will be privatized down the track and our water will be owned by shareholders, probably overseas, and we will pay the price.
Creating an "Unauthorised New Zealand lobbying register" will be an excellent move. So glad you believe it's feasible Bryce. Will there be one for Aotearoa as well? That parallel universe country occupying the same physical space as NZ, complete with its own version of the Treaty, a political power partnership in which sovereignty was never ceded.
The difficulty with a topic like "lobbying" is that it hardly registers on the emotive scale of general public interest, hence the ease of setting aside the legislation - Now New Zealand fourth-worst country for regulating vested interests could have a little more traction. Perhaps the issue could be framed as a kind of political influence apartheid, dividing democracy into corporate and other classes of citizens.
I would assume that Aotearoa and New Zealand are one of the same so am a bit confused at what you're getting at. If you're implying that sone Maori also have tendencies towards lobbyists then hello its been happening for years. Whanau in each iwi could probably name them very easily.
Aotearoa is perhaps an appropriate name for the post modern reconstruction of NZ, far removed from reality.
Certainly, the direct access to governing bodies that Maori entities have been enjoying for years is undemocratic, same as it is for any other group or corporate that is given a special ear not available to all groups and individuals.
Get hold of RCR Bryce and have a convo. Assume Taxpayers Union already are in bed with you on this and Voices For Freedom - if not why not?
The dark Underbelly of NZ politiking needs expose to the light of day. We have Media succumbing the ordinary folks and Lobbyists’ poison words in the ears of our decision-makers. It all reminds me of the wife that constantly talks at the husband until he does what her mouth and mind wants just to try and shut her up.
Apologies to normal wives here who berate husbands plus no apologies here to husbands that do not listen - that’s your sad arse fault - I’m talking here of poisoned and deliberate poisoning that benefits the hidden powerful behind the Wormtongue advisor to the King of the Rohan and the henchman of Saruman. Also another comes to mind - Little Finger who sought to play his games of power in the 7 kingdoms of Westeros.
Question: do any Lobbyists actually believe they are doing good by influencing NZ Policy? Can they actually believe they are ethical in their tasks?
I pose for thought an Insider at the US CDC who was very surprised that every single employee that was hired there thought vaccines were a good thing and that covid was real; they were being good citizens in working to enforce CDC mandates on the world.
We saw the results if you sneezed within a metre of anyone. We saw it in un-scientific antibacterial handwash blindness where mothers were brainwashed into having their children constantly clean their hands and every surface washed in case infection got transmitted.
But I digress - do old politicians only want to be paid or is their some case for morals and ethics?
“Drain the Swamp” takes on meaning in establishing some sort of Register at the very least, but I’d like to propose Lobbyists in New Zealand are stopped. “Advisors” beware - open and free discussion is being policed and our voice for Freedom shut down. Mis-information, dis-information and mal-information only seem to apply to those who question authority. Which presupposes back-room whispering in boardrooms, so ling as it’s not made public until it’s PR wording deflects the real reasons behind the moves seem to be OK with our policymakers. Who is letting Gotham’s criminals loose? Who will stop them?
Was Jesus a PR spokesman for Lobbyists? Did he play the Jewish Royalty game in the face of the Roman powers. No.
Where is our Jesus for modern times when we need him? Who will throw the moneymakers out of the Temple?
Given that the Labour Party will never attract as much money from Corporate lobbyists as the Tories and their mates do, one might have hoped that they would have regulated this opaque industry. Then again hope is a fine thing.
Just imagine if Labour hung its colours to One, just one policy that wasn’t aimed at a short term electoral gain; a policy to serve the greater commonweal. If I single out Labour it’s because National doesn’t even know what I’m talking about and probably thinks ‘commonweal’ is a typo.
Then there’s the issue of politicians weaseling their post ministerial career paths. This is where there is true “cross party collaboration”.
Join this freezing of lobbying controls with Mr Goldsmith's inaction on the Independent Electoral Inquiry report and recommendations and with the continuing abuse of the Official Information Act by ministers and an anti-democratic agenda becomes evident.
Thank you Bryce. I think the push to regulate corporate lobbying may be one of the most important initiatives for the future of healthy governance and democracy in NZ. This issue needs as much attention as we can drum up and as much effort as we can muster.
I totally agree with you Bryce. How ironic that your first comment should come from a former (dumped from office) Labour cabinet minister turned lobbyist undermining your argument. Your case rests on this alone. Keep it up.
They had space, time and energy to change the speed limits on an arbitrarily selected bunch of roads (own the libs) but no time deal with corruption. It figures.
Well done Bryce. With additional lobbyists including some of those Labour people who 'retired' or lost seats in 2023, there will have been an additional plethora of 'favour seekers' this past 18 months. No wonder our transparency ratings are sinking.
Have you any intel on Infrastructure NZ. Big players I think in the water debacle in Wellington with the CEO of infrastructure also the chair of wellington Water. How much influence I wonder have infrastructure NZ had on government push to new water entities. That will be privatized down the track and our water will be owned by shareholders, probably overseas, and we will pay the price.
Not in Christchurch or Dunedin which have agreed to collaborate
The irony of the great grandson of Sir Walter Nash working as lobbyist for the corrupt status quo beggar's belief
Should we be surprised? This is perhaps the most heavily purchased government in NZ's history.
Creating an "Unauthorised New Zealand lobbying register" will be an excellent move. So glad you believe it's feasible Bryce. Will there be one for Aotearoa as well? That parallel universe country occupying the same physical space as NZ, complete with its own version of the Treaty, a political power partnership in which sovereignty was never ceded.
The difficulty with a topic like "lobbying" is that it hardly registers on the emotive scale of general public interest, hence the ease of setting aside the legislation - Now New Zealand fourth-worst country for regulating vested interests could have a little more traction. Perhaps the issue could be framed as a kind of political influence apartheid, dividing democracy into corporate and other classes of citizens.
I would assume that Aotearoa and New Zealand are one of the same so am a bit confused at what you're getting at. If you're implying that sone Maori also have tendencies towards lobbyists then hello its been happening for years. Whanau in each iwi could probably name them very easily.
Aotearoa is perhaps an appropriate name for the post modern reconstruction of NZ, far removed from reality.
Certainly, the direct access to governing bodies that Maori entities have been enjoying for years is undemocratic, same as it is for any other group or corporate that is given a special ear not available to all groups and individuals.
Get hold of RCR Bryce and have a convo. Assume Taxpayers Union already are in bed with you on this and Voices For Freedom - if not why not?
The dark Underbelly of NZ politiking needs expose to the light of day. We have Media succumbing the ordinary folks and Lobbyists’ poison words in the ears of our decision-makers. It all reminds me of the wife that constantly talks at the husband until he does what her mouth and mind wants just to try and shut her up.
Apologies to normal wives here who berate husbands plus no apologies here to husbands that do not listen - that’s your sad arse fault - I’m talking here of poisoned and deliberate poisoning that benefits the hidden powerful behind the Wormtongue advisor to the King of the Rohan and the henchman of Saruman. Also another comes to mind - Little Finger who sought to play his games of power in the 7 kingdoms of Westeros.
Question: do any Lobbyists actually believe they are doing good by influencing NZ Policy? Can they actually believe they are ethical in their tasks?
I pose for thought an Insider at the US CDC who was very surprised that every single employee that was hired there thought vaccines were a good thing and that covid was real; they were being good citizens in working to enforce CDC mandates on the world.
We saw the results if you sneezed within a metre of anyone. We saw it in un-scientific antibacterial handwash blindness where mothers were brainwashed into having their children constantly clean their hands and every surface washed in case infection got transmitted.
But I digress - do old politicians only want to be paid or is their some case for morals and ethics?
“Drain the Swamp” takes on meaning in establishing some sort of Register at the very least, but I’d like to propose Lobbyists in New Zealand are stopped. “Advisors” beware - open and free discussion is being policed and our voice for Freedom shut down. Mis-information, dis-information and mal-information only seem to apply to those who question authority. Which presupposes back-room whispering in boardrooms, so ling as it’s not made public until it’s PR wording deflects the real reasons behind the moves seem to be OK with our policymakers. Who is letting Gotham’s criminals loose? Who will stop them?
Was Jesus a PR spokesman for Lobbyists? Did he play the Jewish Royalty game in the face of the Roman powers. No.
Where is our Jesus for modern times when we need him? Who will throw the moneymakers out of the Temple?
Big mihi Bryce.
Given that the Labour Party will never attract as much money from Corporate lobbyists as the Tories and their mates do, one might have hoped that they would have regulated this opaque industry. Then again hope is a fine thing.
Just imagine if Labour hung its colours to One, just one policy that wasn’t aimed at a short term electoral gain; a policy to serve the greater commonweal. If I single out Labour it’s because National doesn’t even know what I’m talking about and probably thinks ‘commonweal’ is a typo.
Then there’s the issue of politicians weaseling their post ministerial career paths. This is where there is true “cross party collaboration”.
Join this freezing of lobbying controls with Mr Goldsmith's inaction on the Independent Electoral Inquiry report and recommendations and with the continuing abuse of the Official Information Act by ministers and an anti-democratic agenda becomes evident.
Thank you Bryce. I think the push to regulate corporate lobbying may be one of the most important initiatives for the future of healthy governance and democracy in NZ. This issue needs as much attention as we can drum up and as much effort as we can muster.
Go for it Bryce!
Great work - keep going!
I totally agree with you Bryce. How ironic that your first comment should come from a former (dumped from office) Labour cabinet minister turned lobbyist undermining your argument. Your case rests on this alone. Keep it up.