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Chris Trotter's avatar

It is one of the saddest aspects of the entire Treaty Debate - the trahison de clercs of the New Zealand history profession. Undertaken, I am sure, with the best of motives, their revisionism has bitterly divided New Zealand and now threatens its future as a democratic state.

It is worth remembering, Robyn, that some of the most fervent Nazis were to be found in Germany's universities.

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Mark Taylor's avatar

I'm with "the old pakeha woman from the left."

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Robyn Procter 's avatar

I note there are zero comments ! That's because there is nothing you have said worth giving oxygen to. There has been some excellent published opinion recently in the Post.I suggest you read Peter Adam's " The unprincipled history of Treaty observance" and Michael Heard " Words matter , so does history ". Maybe you have written these commentators off with your latest leftist definitions or did you prefer the 8 page liftout on the Treaty paid for by the right ?

There a far worse things happening on planet earth to be afraid of than co governance . Signed ' an old pakeha woman from the left '

overnance or

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David George's avatar

Early days yet Robyn, I'm sure there will be plenty of comments on this one.

Unfortunately the history of governance based on racial, ethnic, tribal or religious identity is not a good one; one very much to be "afraid of". Free, fair and functional societies are grounded in equality before the law; replace, or neglect, that principle at your great peril.

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David George's avatar

It's tempting, but mistaken, to view the Treaty issue, or any one of dozens of issues (Trans, Palestine, Black Live etc) in isolation. So what commonality, what ideology, underlays it all?

"In its narrow sense, an ideology is a set of political stories a group of people tell to facilitate mass action. They are quasi-religious oversimplifications of reality that possess their most dogmatic believers to interpret themselves, their history, and the world around them through a fixed conceptual schema".

“Ideologies were distinguished from other sorts of intellectual production by the fact that they advanced proposals, and also nominated a special class to whom the task was entrusted to bring these proposals about. Each doctrine nominated what it imagined to be its natural bearers.

The problem which soon appeared was that the nominated bearers turned out to need instruction in the doctrines which constituted their natural consciousness. Proletarians had to be taught how to think like proletarians, women like women, Aryans like Aryans, and the members of nations sometimes had to be taught the very language of their nation from scratch.

The most successful ideologies were to be those which discovered the wave of the future in a natural class, and then equipped this class with a vanguard or elite who became the priests or custodians of its consciousness.”

Kenneth Minogue, Alien Powers: The Pure Theory of Ideology.

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David George's avatar

Continued:

"The Rainbow Blob believes that with enough complaint, anything can be achieved. For the blob, all problems are fundamentally social, which means every unresolved hardship is tied to an implicit burden of guilt. It hunts down scapegoats, devouring careers and reputations in a blind search for absolution.

The Rainbow Blob will never stop. Its lust for change will never abate. It absorbs goodwill, attention, and resources from real causes and converts the energy into momentum for its dissociated revolution.

Left to run its natural course, it will redefine, reimagine, reshape, and reengineer civilisation until everything is equally diverse, exclusively inclusive, and its colours run together to reveal a nihilistic black. Beware the Rainbow Blob."

https://www.michaelnayna.com/p/the-rainbow-blob

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Mark Heatherbell's avatar

When it comes to governing millions of people, democracy seems to be the main tool that is fit for purpose. Tribalism works well for governing smaller numbers of people, but we are seeing the problems of reintroducing tribal authority into 6,000,000 of us. I think tribal self-determination is a better goal and solution than more bureaucrats. Right wing and left wing are starting to look like outdated concepts.

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